I talked to my aging dad the other day and he surprised me with the drag queen issue. “You want this in your grandkids schools?!” he says. I said “hold on, do you actually think someone is being hurt here or are you being stoked up by tv you sit around and watch all winter?” Needless to say, a little reason goes a long way and it’s shocking how quickly people lost sight of that.
There should be a ban on minors attending church.
And not just because of the dangerous religious indoctrination, but also the documented-a-thousand-times-over child rape.
what you did just now is called whataboutism. there is no number of child rapes by catholic priests that would influence the acceptability for a child to be admitted to an upside down leopard thong show. we cannot just claim that someone else did something worse than what we did, and that it somehow makes what we did okay. it’s also problematic because it presents a false choice. we do not have to be both against children being admitted to see men dry humping each other dressed as santa’s reindeer and in favor of children being raped by catholic priests.
deleted by creator
@goatmeal Hamburger Mary’s is a drag/hamburger joint with a family day on Sundays. Drag queens dressed up like Lucy, etc. serve hamburgers and do family-friendly comedy. Is this for all families? Probably not. But politicians should NOT be able to tell me I can’t take MY kid there. Especially when I can give consent for my child to see a rated-R movie with obscene amounts of gun violence and death. People having their heads blown off is seriously BETTER for a child to see than a man telling jokes in a dress?
It’s not whataboutism; it’s asking why we are allowing children around known, proven predators with a track record (priests) but preventing them from seeing those who have zero record of any inappropriate activity with children (drag queens). Do we care about children’s safety or not?
I get what you‘re trying to say and I‘m not a fan of churches either, but this just legitimises this idea that we need states and governments to ban attending an activity entirely based on negative actions of a some of that group. By that logic there is a whole lot of shit we need to ban including schools, kindergardens and daycares.
The logical outcome then to “protect the children” is to ban any contact to any adult whatsoever, including the own family members since those are most likely to abuse the children.
Parents are the best arbiter of children, except drag shows. Those the Government is best entity to dictate that, apparently.
I just can’t the double speak this group keeps defending.
Can strip clubs just rebrand as drag clubs and have all ages access?
To directly quote the second and third paragraphs of the article:
The judge, Gregory Presnell, was acting on a request by the restaurant chain Hamburger Mary’s, which sued Florida last month claiming that the law was overly broad and put a chilling effect on the right to free speech under the First Amendment.
Presnell, an appointee of former President Bill Clinton, determined that while some people may find a drag performer reading a children’s book to a minor during a performance to be inappropriate, it doesn’t necessarily constitute an obscene performance. He also stated that current obscenity laws already “provide Defendant with the necessary authority to protect children from any constitutionally unprotected obscene exhibitions or shows.”
So… No.
