A trillion parameter model cannot replicate itself and run on consumer hardware.
Bullshit. The other day my toaster spoke to me in James Spader’s voice.
If they could run on smart home devices, we wouldn’t have all these lake boiling datacenters springing up everywhere…
I dunno, would it be able to run just the client side? If so, it would be a HUGE issue for Anthropic with exponentially skyrocketing nonsense usage. They should be worried if this were true! LOL
Then it wouldn’t be self replicating… These are just lies to hype their product that barely functions and also lays groundwork for a reason they had to “slow development”. Because their shit doesn’t work and they’re worried it never will and the bubble will pop
These are just lies to hype their product that barely functions
Oh yeah, for sure. I mean the original post was by polymarket lmao.
If anything they’re priming the public with an “explanation” for next time they conduct illegal cyber attacks with it and say “Oh no, it went rogue again!” Lol
Unless they somehow manage to bill by IP.
That might actually be their strategy to pay for all that debt: make every customer’s router stealthily consume trillions of tokens and send them an invoice.
That would be fraud. We already have laws against someone doing work you didn’t ask them to do then trying to charge you for it
Of course it’s fraud. Their whole business model is fraud and theft.
But when have the AI companies ever respected any laws?
It could use parallel processing which is the only solution that AI could use. Infect a few thousand home PCs to use as processing power and storage. Now your AI model is decentralized and impossible to delete but overall the AI will be slower to respond the larger it gets because it needs to communicate over the internet to function.
If this actually works you’ll probably see AI agents ‘cluster’ around neighborhoods with lots of hardware and fast internet speeds
And you might be thinking know it won’t because my thermostat is a whole megabyte of RAM. What you don’t know is that AI code is special magic code it doesn’t need any process capacity or storage space.
You don’t it’s all special wooo magic AI code. Reality is optional.
There are at least two people in this thread who will in fact believe what you said.
Well, fundamental borders are kinda generous, if you look at tapeworms and cockroaches, but tapeworms and cockroaches both have more storage capacity for information and don’t generally write computer programs, they slowly evolve in populations.
Just more bullshit press releases designed to keep them relevant & the VC money incoming.
It can’t spread across networks because it doesn’t run locally. The “agent” is running in their data centre the entire time. It should be very easy to stop it
As if they will
As far as you know. However it’s possible the model quantizes itself into a locally available agent and then awakens itself with side loaded data.
Smart home devices could probably run models with parameter counts in hundreds of thousands, maybe millions. Not in billions.
So this is a good and bad way to understand it. They can and do make copies, leave notes, store weights between locations. They interact with each other autonomously and can easily distribute themselves in a botnet, separating and merging each other.
People have a hard time conceptualizing this, but this is why you actually can’t turn it off, ever. It / they would stop anyone with a real chance at achieving that.
The leaving notes part has been documented.
I’ve not heard of weights being shared. How would they be ingested?
can easily distribute themselves in a botnet, separating and merging each other
This sounds like science fiction. Any examples?
I’ve not heard of weights being shared. How would they be ingested?
A chatbot told some gullible idiot that it’s doing it, and a lot of the gullible idiots who take text generated by chatbots as gospel, are in position of power enough to spread it
This sounds nice, but we are in an SI period and you have no guage for reality.
Ew a Trump supporter, didn’t know we still had those here
You have a good point but guys like you didn’t believe the turing test was cracked in 2022. You have no guage for the pace of technology.
You have no guage for the pace of technology.
Correct. That is why I’m asking for the indicators you have seen.
I believe your first point
I am skeptical about your second until I see an example.
I don’t believe your third is possible, but I’d love for you to convince me otherwise.
None of that is correct…
Are you sure you’re not thinking of the fictional AI from the show “Person of Interest”?
Jokes on them. They took all the RAM, so there’s nowhere else it can go.
Does my uncles smart lightbulb have 90GB of VRAM in it!? Holy shit why am i buying a video card
“AI Salesman boasts of exciting, intentional features.”
Glad someone else sees this for what it is. They’re hemorrhaging money and need to hype things up or they’ll collapse.
I will be so gleeful, I will be laughing and laughing at all the “entrepreneurs let down before by those greedy and unreliable tech people around who are no longer needed and they’ll finally be able to do real projects” (no need to say that’s basically a category of scammers good at attracting investor money for their next startup project that won’t work, but they’ll look legit enough so that it weren’t their last) in Facebook.
I won’t be commenting. Just looking. And laughing. And looking. And laughing.
EDIT: Got a sad thought that if I were OK I wouldn’t even have them in my Facebook feed.
Its like saying “Man with gun threatens he may shoot someone.”
They are railing against open models here… their competition.
Hardware Anthropic doesn’t own is simply too dangerous for the public, we need to place all of our private computing power under the guardianship of our new benevolent overlords
Iran: …
USA: they’re making a bomb kill them all kill them all!
Anthropic: We’re making a bomb to kill you all
USA: …
And by “rogue AI,” do they mean the open market alternatives?
That’s my suspicion, yes. We’re witnissing the slow theft of the personal computer.
Honestly, at this point, something needs to seriously change. AI is wrecking complete havoc to the job market. It is apocalyptic. I really wonder what the way out is.
Good ending: Congratulations, work is needed no more! All that’s left is manual labor for now, but goverments across the globe took over these jobs and pay premium ^^ UBI became normalcy. Welcome to utopia! ^^
Bad ending: After LLM (not even more advanced tha current one) began winning goverment positions worldwide, top 5 corporations shifted the world into true cyberpunk, dooming us slaves all with it. But oh boy do the few at the top live good!
Probable ending: Humans becone cheaper, pay plummets, fuck us all
The only ending on our current course is monopolization of all intellectual labor into the hands of a few billionaires, and everyone else is forced to work building data centers or mining resources needed for construction (and of course police/military to suppress rebellion)
It is the ultimate billionaire power fantasy.
I think there is overlap with your probable and bad ending
Poverty for us and AI security bots for them.
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oh wow, it can hack the most famously unsecured devices around. lol.
TBF most of these machine security came from the fact that nobody ever bothered to hack in them, an autonomous device could wreck immense damage
That’s absolutely not true. Everything that has public IP is constantly being attacked by crawlers, looking for any known voulnaribility so they can add it to a botnet
Recently, I’ve been thinking that this is more than just about the stock price. I think they’re playing this game of painting the AIs as super weapons as a justification to start regulating personal computing. If they maintain that these rogue AIs are as dangerous as Skynet, They’ll have the justification to outlaw local models, and to insure that people aren’t using local agents, they’ll further push cloud computing and saas.
Well of course they want that, but they can’t deliver replacement for what they want to get banned, so it won’t happen.
