• SoylentBlake@lemm.ee
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    1 year ago

    The correct answer is

    Fuck Pavlov

    Motherfucker is like the Hitler of dogs. It’s a shame his name is remembered for the conditioning and not the mutilation. Dude was a monster.

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        Yeah, he cut holes in their throats so food would fall out and added additional holes along the digestive tract to collect various “gastric juices”. He also, apparently, started a business harvesting and selling said juices as a cure for indigestion… not sure how that worked, seems like it would cause more than it cured.

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          My god. We don’t deserve dogs if we are not adjusting Pavlov’s reputation for this.

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            Jfc, to what end? All this retroactive cancelling of dead people is just diddling yourself for feel-good reasons. Get over it and be different instead of waving some flag that says you are different.

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              Mate learning from history’s jackasses is how we move forward as a society. Cancelling? The fuck are we cancelling? You said it yourself, fucko is dead, cancelled by life, you don’t get much more “cancelled” than that.

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    There is a joke about that:

    Pavlov is sitting in a bar enjoying his beer. The phone rings. Pavlov jumps up: “Damn! I forgot to feed the dogs!”

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    My dog trained me to get him water by lifting the toilet bowl lid. He doesn’t want to drink out of it, but he knows I’ll get up to stop him and check his water on the way. Now he’ll lift the lid then go stand by the water dish.

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      Alternatively: your dog has learned how to effectively communicate with you to ask for water.

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    Pavlov’s dog is not notable for showing that dogs could be conditioned (bell = food time)

    What it did was show that a conditional response (bell = food time) could cause a reflexive response (saliva)

    Classical conditioning is not the same as associative learning.

    Pavlov’s dog is not about associating Thing A with Thing B - that didn’t need a russian scientist to prove.

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    I mean, no joke, a dog whining/ begging is conditioning you.

    I am a dog.

    I beg. You give me food. I look cute.

    I beg. You don’t give me food. I cry.

    Next time I beg, will you give me the food?

    Probably.

    After that: I look cute. You give me food.

    Congratulations, you’ve just been conditioned by your dog, buuuuut you get a cute dog, lmao.

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      I seem to remember reading that domesticated dogs evolved more expressive eyebrows that proved to be a survival advantage in this process.

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          I’ve long had a theory that cats have evolved to be just cute enough that we don’t murder them. Cats are evil, so it’s understandable that humans would want to kill them, and I think we probably did early on, but some of them were so cute that we didn’t. Those surviving cute cats reproduced and made more cute cats, but they also became more evil. Over generations, we have created beings that are supremely evil, but they’re just so gosh darned cute that we let them get away with it.