I don’t want to seem rude, but if I were on an LGBTQ cruise ship, Turkey and Egypt would unfortunately be places I choose not to visit.
I fully think they should be allowed to dock and do their thing, and that nobody should be discriminated against for their sexuality.
However, there are many places in this world that are sadly still unsafe and still living in the fiction that if you just suppress people enough they’ll not exist.
On the other hand, a cruise ship getting turned away is a great way to draw attention to the blatantly bad policies that exist in those countries. Turning away a ship that big is a slap in the face to local businesses, it’s a meaningful moment to create. If that was their goal.
It is absolutely wrong that anyone is discriminated against or turned away for their sexual preferences, etc. But like you said, if I were on that ship (even as a non-LGBTQ person) I wouldn’t want to go near those countries out of concern for everyone’s safety.
There’s a weird duality to many of these countries - like it’s not illegal to be gay in either culture, but citizens can expect trouble if they form community. Whereas tourists are given free rein to be Western in tourist areas, and that means smiling as they take queer money. This tourist-friendly side can sometimes fuel local culture, giving it a place to exist safely.
But yeah I don’t spend my money in places like this.
And nothing of value is missed.
Imagine being LGBTQ and having to live there!
I have no horse in this race, but pointing out how stupid and petty and evil suppressing people is by telling these stories is how we change the world.
(And also, you’re getting close to the “they asked for it because they knew it could happen” territory, might be worth taking a moment to contemplate who that feeling serves.)
Should they try Saudi Arabia or Florida next?
Obviously? Like it sucks, but that’s obviously a risk AND an incredibly stupid location to visit.
Dear God, was the cruise ship trying to get them killed?
I don’t know about Turkey, but I do know an Egypt stop would be …unpleasant. Oblivious
Personally, I wouldn’t set foot in Egypt, either.
I spent a two week vacation in Egypt once, as a solo woman. I think roughly half of all groping in my life occurred in those two weeks.
Egypt is the worst country I’ve ever visited. By a HUGE margin. I could write a book about why Egypt sucks.
I could write a book about why Egypt sucks
If you are interested in sharing, I know I’m definitely curious about some of the things you’re talking about
What is an LGBTQ cruiseship?
Many of them want to have sex with same-gendered cruise ships.
They might turn us away at their ports, but they can’t erase us.
They’re just worried about the fabulous rubbing off on them.
I don’t think anyone should be rubbing anything off against anyone without their consent.
Nah, Turkey is clearly worried that their manly men will not want to participate in or even watch oil wrestling, because they’ll want to put hands down each other’s pants instead…oh wait 🤔
So Egypt and Turkey are backward brain bitches with low IQ religious people. :/
