• cygnus@lemmy.ca
    1803·
    12 天前

    Me using KDE Plasma because I prefer to work with my computer rather than work on my computer:

    • cadekat@pawb.social
      261·
      12 天前

      I caved and used KDE on my last install, and boy do I miss Gnome.

      Not that KDE is bad, but Gnome is just so my style.

      • ray@sh.itjust.works
        13·
        12 天前

        Couldn’t you just install Gnome now? Most distros have packages for Gnome and KDE, and there’s usually nothing stopping you from installing them both.

        • cadekat@pawb.social
          6·
          12 天前

          I could, but I’ll probably stick with KDE until I reinstall. It ain’t broke, just not exactly what I want.

      • Skullgrid@lemmy.world
        8·
        12 天前

        Not that KDE is bad, but Gnome is just so my style.

        can’t you just customise KDE to just work like gnome?

        • Eldritch@piefed.worldEnglish
          6·
          12 天前

          Possible? Yes. Accomplishable, dunno. You can get very close visually etc. Far closer than making GNOME look like KDE. But I have a feeling that some of the panel meaning dropdowns etc would be the first places to falter. Though, maybe someone has fitting panel apps already.

      • MuckyWaffles@leminal.spaceEnglish
        2·
        10 天前

        I’m a gnome fan myself, though I’ve been using a lot of distros without systemd recently while gnome has started requiring it so I’m probably not going to be seeing gnome for a while.

        • cadekat@pawb.social
          2·
          10 天前

          That’s interesting. I come from the Gentoo world, so Gnome without systemd isn’t too uncommon.

    • Feathercrown@lemmy.worldEnglish
      6·
      11 天前

      The rare double ambiguity: “work on” and “work with” could both have two meanings with opposite effects in the sentence

    • Flames5123@sh.itjust.worksEnglish
      2·
      12 天前

      I’m not sure what’s wrong with my config but almost every time I wake it from having the screens off (it doesn’t sleep because it’s my media PC too) plasma is just dead and may or may not boot up again. Running plasmashell —replace (or whatever the command is) doesn’t fix it every time.

      I blame nvidia.

      • dogs0n@sh.itjust.works
        3·
        12 天前

        I blame nvidia too, this used to happen to me, but hasn’t so far since using hyprland, etc (maybe because hypridle isn’t so complicated when setup to use the basic commands for turning off screens/sleeping).

        (I actually do sleep my machine)

        • Flames5123@sh.itjust.worksEnglish
          2·
          7 天前

          It’s been a few days and I tried this. Got a crash yesterday that still required a reboot. :/

          I think it is happening less though. I’ll keep looking down this path as it could be the right direction, and it’s the first time I’ve heard of this, so thank you!

          • bilouba@jlai.lu
            1·
            7 天前

            Your welcome, I don’t remember how I got this solution but it was very hard to find. Not the first place I would search. I thought it was a driver issue. Anyway, thanks for the feedback and good luck!

    • Phoeniqz@lemmy.dbzer0.com
      65·
      12 天前

      These folks have a skill issue tho, haven’t touched my hyprland config in ages. Just don’t overcomplicate/bloat your config, it’s not that hard.

      • OrganicMustard@lemmy.world
        9·
        12 天前

        I had to change mine every few months because they keep deprecating stuff. Changed to Niri a week ago because I got dozens of config errors after an update.

      • dogs0n@sh.itjust.works
        2·
        12 天前

        Default configs are very great, but to be fair, a lot of people who use hyprland would be hardcore ricers, so I can see why deprecations would hit most advanced users quite hard.

    • blinfabian@feddit.nlEnglish
      11·
      11 天前

      i use kde but i do like it heavily customised, im not going through 1000 config files to make it 1% smoother and to change the wallpaper tho

    • Ephera@lemmy.mlEnglish
      21·
      12 天前

      Yeah, have not heard about any of these problems before this post…

  • panda_abyss@lemmy.ca
    391·
    12 天前

    I am out of the loop, what’s going on with hyperland?

    Is this a continuation of the DHH issues?

        • Jhex@lemmy.world
          12·
          12 天前

          indeed… I took what I learnt from someone’s dotfile project to build my own minimalist one… took me an afternoon to set up and everything has been rock solid since

          not bad mouthing the dotfiles project I learnt from… they did great but I just did not need that much

  • teft@piefed.socialEnglish
    33·
    12 天前

    Are newbies really installing hyprland? I would think they’d stick with kde/gnome/cinnamon.

    • F04118F@feddit.nl
      56·
      12 天前

      In an ideal world.

      But in our world, newbies are being recommended:

      • Distros based on ArchLinux, that ship breaking changes and expect users to read .pacnew config files and update their own config accordingly (CachyOS)
      • A bunch of shell scripts and Hyprland config masquerading as a distro, made by a white supremacist and used to promote their brand (Omarchy 🤮)
      • NixOS. I don’t even known where to begin with this one.

      To be 100% clear, I use and like CachyOS and Nix (home manager). CachyOS and NixOS are great projects with good technical performance toward their respective goals (good defaults and performance on Arch, and declarative configuration, respectively), but they are not beginner friendly.

      • teft@piefed.socialEnglish
        16·
        12 天前

        Distros based on ArchLinux, that ship breaking changes and expect users to read .pacnew config files and update their own config accordingly (CachyOS)

        You’re absolutely right. The other day I ran into a guy using arch who didn’t know what a tarball was or how to compile software. I was like ‘the fuck?’.

        I should have thought of the newbies who just follow guides and might not know they’ve gotten in over their heads.

      • zebidiah@lemmy.ca
        7·
        12 天前

        A bunch of shell scripts and Hyprland config masquerading as a distro, made by a white supremacist and used to promote their brand (Omarchy 🤮)

        AntiX, fast, lightweight, and proudly anti-fascist…

        • chunkystyles@sopuli.xyzEnglish
          2·
          12 天前

          AntiX is nothing like Omarchy from my quick look at it. It’s Debian vs Arch (btw) and systemd-free.

      • Zozano@aussie.zoneEnglish
        6·
        12 天前

        In some ways I think NixOS is good for beginners. I started with Ubuntu, then Arch, then NixOS.

        I managed to break Ubuntu and Arch in some really weird ways which made reinstalling my root directory easier than diagnosing the issues.

        You cannot break NixOS unless you do some funky chroot shit or rebuild with temporary partitions.

        This isn’t to suggest newbies should choose NixOS as a first distro, learning NixOS will give you a skill set which will not translate to knowledge about how other Linux OS’s work (because it breaks file system conventions).

        However… If you know how to use NixOS, you’re living a post distro-hopping life, having ascended to godhood, and letting the Arch users know you use Nix BTW.

    • HellieSkellie@lemmy.dbzer0.comEnglish
      8·
      12 天前

      Third top post of all time to r/r/unixporn is a slick hyprland + quickshell rice and they linked their dotfiles + configs. how is a brother to resist trying it?

    • Bubblebath@lemmy.world
      6·
      12 天前

      I am a newbie with hyprland. Got introduced to it with a bog video, and because it was keyboard only, it was a good fit for my dell nuggetbook with a poor trackpad. It isn’t my only machine, so I felt safe enough in doing so.

      It has taken a bit of configuring the files, but I have really enjoyed the process of learning.

      So for me it was a way of reviving a machine that was painful to use.

      Also most rice I have seen are hyprland. Probably doesn’t help

      • LucidNightmare@lemmy.dbzer0.com
        2·
        12 天前

        Love some Bog. I wish more Linux enthusiasts would give him a watch, as he even makes me go WTF every now and then, and I’m just a noob myself!

    • highball@lemmy.worldEnglish
      1·
      12 天前

      Yep, then they are going to complain and claim Linux isn’t ready for then entire computing industry; not even grandmas just using a web browser.

  • Lian Dynn@lemmy.worldEnglish
    9·
    12 天前

    And that is why I no longer use Hyprland and actually thinking about removing that branch from my dotfiles repo. Why vaxry doesn’t seem to understand the concept of “deprecation”?

    • dogs0n@sh.itjust.works
      3·
      12 天前

      Dumbest thing in software imo, is when I see software that is obviously worthy of being out of v0 (beta, alpha, etc), stay in v0.

      Though since it still is v0, I guess we can’t expect much.

      Not sure why it is, maybe there is a good reason, but the software functions well enough for a stable release, though at the same time, this is a very small scale operation with great ambitions and a big userbase. If you api needs to be updated, it’s obviously much easier to just push a breaking change than to maintain a migration period.

      There’s a lot of nuance, but I’d like more software to just enter v1 when it works as intended and then breaking changes can increment the major version rather than staying in v0 which is harder to tell when a breaking change happens.

      p.s. so far config changes in hyprland have only been a 5 min fix so i haven’t experienced this fuss yet, maybe soon!

      • JakoJakoJako13@piefed.socialEnglish
        4·
        12 天前

        I switched around September. The learning curve is higher than Hyprland but not by much. Once you get used to switching layouts on the fly it really open up the workflow. Plus there’s no bullshit. I don’t know any of the devs. There’s no controversy. It’s just a window manager. It’s the closest thing to the pure bliss of BSPWM Wayland has.

    • porl@lemmy.worldEnglish
      1·
      11 天前

      I tried to switch to Mango but it seems to behave weirdly to me with regards to the way focus changes or not when closing window with the keyboard. Not sure how to describe it but as much as I hate the attitude of the Hyprland developer it is the only compositor that behaved the way I expect. I do use the scroller plugin making it a little more like Niri but Niri itself doesn’t behave like I like with multiple monitors and keybinds

  • Wispy2891@lemmy.world
    1·
    8 天前

    I liked hyprland for about one month this August, wasted a lot to make the configuration how I liked. Then they changed the config suddenly without warning. Installed GNOME as a fallback because I needed to do actual work, wasted another weekend to fix the configuration. Nice, I used it for some other time and… broken again within a month. At least deprecate the configuration and give one version of tolerance…