bazzite seems to be so crucial for widespread adoption, watching with great interest!
Friend just hopped to Bazzite from Windows.
I was hoping the atomocity would be a great boon - you kind of can’t break it right.Well, he wanted to configure RGB lighting on his mouse but the flatpak openrgb did not work, supposedly the udev rules included in bazzite by default, are not up to date or there was some other problem.
As such we had to install openrgb the usual system-wide way, with rpm-ostree in terminal - something I was hoping he would never had to do.I honestly don’t think an immutable distro is a great way to introduce people to Linux. It’s not simple to do some things that are easy in anything else. It’s going to drive a lot of new users away. The things that make it unbreakable also make it difficult for noobs.
NGL, I’ve been using Fedora Silverblue as my beginner distro, and while most of it has been great and plug-n-play with little issue, there’s really frustrating shit about it. If I’m trying to look up how to do terminal stuff to install something not on flatpak, 99% of the time the instructions are for regular Fedora, not Silverblue. So I couldn’t figure out for the life of me how to use Cisco packet tracer without using a wine app, because a version provided wasn’t atomic.
Just yesterday, I wanted to try getting ShareX to work, and was trying to figure out a more native way to do ShareX + wine from the CLI, so I tried to install wine, but it uses its own repo, so I had to look up how to install a repo for Silverblue, in which there were far less results, and the few answers I saw were like “put the repofile in the folder for repositories.” I’m so lost man. Idk where these shits are in my files. I tried reading what I think is the Silverblue documentation, but it doesn’t explain much.
Sometimes I seriously think of switching to reg Fedora because my life would be far easier when having to find answers, and as long as I make backups, fucking my system up won’t really matter much.
The immutability aspect is kind of irrelevant in the end. I’ve run Linux for decades, and the occasional nuke and pave every couple years just cleans things up IMO. Use a dotfile backup if it really concerns you, but I don’t bother other than to keep my ssh keys. I can fix up Plasma the way I like it in about 2 minutes and install the rest of the software as I need it if it isn’t already there.
That said, I’ve run vanilla Fedora KDE for a few years now and never had a reason to reinstall on any of my machines, it Just Werks. And all the instructions for installing/fixing things are relevant.
I tried Aurora and that was a disaster within a few hours, even using the pre-installed Distrobox manager Box Buddy (put in to allow containerized installs to work around the immutability aspect) led to weird things happening like it not being able to clone a box, and when you drilled through all the layers to run the underlying Docker commands, it still failed, for no apparent reason. Install the same stack on vanilla Fedora, no problems. I ended up with trust issues in the underlying OS and I don’t need to deal with undiagnosable bullshit like that.
If I’m trying to look up how to do terminal stuff to install something not on flatpak, 99% of the time the instructions are for regular Fedora, not Silverblue.
This is solved by the various ublue images and distrobox generally. Distrobox basically lets you run those install instructions as natively as possible. Its a bit like WINE but for all linux distros. For example, I can install a .deb file to my system with distrobox, or I could pull from Arch’s AUR. Distrobox lets you be pretty lazy, it works most of the time, though some applications don’t seem to like it. And by the way, you can download a .rpm file and layer it using rpm-ostree install [.rpm filelocation] if all else fails.
Generally, I feel like Fedora Atomic is the best middleground for linux these days. It really incentivizes the users to use containers, which are far more secure than the permissions anarchy of normal linux. Its easy enough to daily drive too.
What feature does ShareX provide that Spectacle doesnt? You can share to imgur, telegram, etc with it.
Tried Distrobox, heard about it before but was to scared to use it previously. Seems neat, still having issues with running an application after installing it via wine…
What feature does ShareX provide that Spectacle doesnt? You can share to imgur, telegram, etc with it.
When I looked up Linux alternatives, I never saw anyone mention this app. Also, it uses KDE, and Silverblue is Gnome. I just tried installing KWin since spectacle says it needs it, and it seems to not want to work…
Edit: Rebased to Fedora Kinoite because it uses Plasma KDE, which works with Spectacle. Shortcuts provided are nice and can do what I need, but ShareX definitely had more ways to create new shortcuts, and each shortcut could auto save to different folders, unlike the global save for ShareX. ShareX also can record JUST audio, which eliminates the need for a second app to do so. I just feel like the shortcuts and tasks in ShareX could be hyperspecific.
But this will work! Thank you for informing me about it! Idk why people recommend flameshot instead of this, seems better.
Np! Glad you enjoy it! Its made by KDE themselves. You might like Bazzite w/ KDE or Aurora. Generally, I feel ublue adds a lot to atomic distros in terms of automation and nice to have features
Honestly though, most actual non-techie users just need a web browser and the odd desktop office application.
For people who have never used a command line interface, and who would have no idea what to do with one anyway, you really can’t much more straightforward than something like Bazzite or Bluefin.
As such we had to install openrgb the usual system-wide way, with rpm-ostree in terminal - something I was hoping he would never had to do.
There is nothing wrong with doing that if there’s no better option. You’re not losing out on anything.
“Less touching of the system, less chance of breaking something” seems to be the idea.
Sure, though the immutable design makes it very safe to touch these things.
where is the cosmic atomic spin?
Sway also ain’t listed
I’ve installed Bazzite, and I’ll be making that my daily driver once I finish my documentation (and figure out how to get balatro mods to actually load -.-)
Let me know if you still havent figured out the installation of balatro mods. It’s tricky but doable and I’m happy to help.
Thanks, I might take you up on that. I managed to get lovey to load, but smods refuses to even show in the main menu. Got the mods in the designated folder, but nothing.
I switched from Aurora to Bazzite. Call me crazy, but bazzite feels like a smoother experience on my laptop. I can’t exactly pin done the difference, but its there. It could also just be some update that went out after i picked up Bazzite.
Bazzite has a different kernel thats tweaked for performance, thats probably what it is
Bazzite is a custom image of Kinoite, but I’m not surprised it’s taking off, it’s great.
Edit: Source
Not exactly. It has a lot of customization, including a custom kernel.
regardless it uses plasma, as you can see people seem to prefer plasma over gnome
bazzite uses both, and has support for budgie in development
I believe they said a Cosmic spin is also planned.
How are the numbers tracked?
They break into your home, use your toilet, steal a beer, and boot your computer to check the version.
Why isn’t Secureblue included in the count?
Because whoever generated that chart decided to only include these. The raw data is avaiable for anyone to play around with here in csv: https://data-analysis.fedoraproject.org/
It looks like to me that the chart is coming from the ublue project, so if you are a tech person, you can fork their countme repo and modify it to your needs.
Looks like the image originates from this repo https://github.com/ublue-os/countme
I’ve swapped an older gaming laptop to it, AMD CPU/igpu and an Nvidia dedicated GPU.
The distro just works. Not that fedora didn’t, but dealing with the two gpus wasnt great.
Fedora Workstation is staying on my main desktop though. Not ready to jump ship yet.
