• TropicalDingdong@lemmy.world
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    Count #1: Guilty

    Count #2: Guilty

    Count #3: Guilty

    Count #4: Guilty

    Count #5: Guilty

    Count #6: Guilty

    Count #7: Guilty

    Count #8: Guilty

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    When the GOP sends its people, they’re not sending their best. They’re sending people that have lots of problems, and they’re bringing those problems with us. They’re bringing drugs. They’re bringing crime. They’re rapists. And some, I assume, are convicted felons.

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        When McConnell bites it, I’m walking out of the kitchen at work and into the bar and buying everyone a round, along with myself. That will truly be a day of celebration.

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        I happened to be in my mother’s house when she called me to look at it live and there was zero mention on CNN of whether or not he would serve time over it. Sentencing in July.

        Anyone know likelihood of jail time?

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            This needs to be brought up every damned time this subject comes up. Cohen served time for the exact same crime - so what argument is there that Trump shouldn’t?

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              so what argument is there that Trump shouldn’t?

              The American justice system has been successfully boiled down to a pay to play system and it’s unfair to not let other rich people go for more serious crimes, but not Trump .

              I mean I don’t think they would be honest enough to run with that, but it’s the only argument I can think of that would be based on an unfortunate truth.

              Everyone consciously or subconsciously knows the justice system works differently for different classes. The only reason anyone who leans right actually believes it could be a “witch hunt” is because no one has an iota of faith in the justice system. Sending a “billionaire” to jail is so rare that the possibility of it happening seems suspicious.

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        Maybe not, but it still sets a nice precedent that there is no magical spall-trap that will be spring if we convict a former president of crimes.

        Now it just needs to be done for something he did in office.

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          Remember when Clinton lost the election because the FBI didn’t find anything on her assistant’s laptop?

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            I mean she could have spent a weekend in Michigan. That was an unforced error.

            She could have addressed her relationship with Goldman Sachs, and all the other banks that fucked over the entirety of the American people during the housing crisis that she earned millions upon millions giving “speeches” to.

            She could have made an olive branch to the progressive caucus.

            She could have not said “Sit down and shut up” to BLM activists.

            There are a lot of things she could have done.

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                  Maybe, but it happened right before the election. I observed noticeable shift in attitude. That’s not good evidence, I know, but Clinton’s polls which had been steady, took a 3% dip at the time and stayed down through election day.

                  People talked about the polls being off compared to the election, but the election matched the post-Comey polls pretty well. It’s only the polls that mixed pre-Comey data that were too high for Clinton.

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        I’m making a called shot of a drop into the 40’s for July’s polling.

        He wont’ drop below 25%, ever. That’s his core. They may never support another candidate again.

        However, dropping to high 30’s low 40’s only puts Trump back to par with Biden. Hardly a W, but at lease Biden would be back in the running.

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            I mean it in a “There are still people who think gamestop is going to be a billion dollar stock” manner.

            See: https://lemmy.world/c/gamestopstock

            Cult/ Cargo cult level “They will never support another candidate again” is what I mean. They’ll write him in. They’ll have wild conspiracy theories. Not need to push. It will happen it on its own.

            I would guess its around 25-30% of Republican voters. Its the conspiracy theory mind-set cutting backwards against those that seed it. There is no undoing this.

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              If Donald could please just die and they continue writing in his name for all future votes that would be great. They are the most ignorant and racist people within a party wholly committed to cultivating ignorant and racist voters.

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                Thats what I’m conjecturing. This is the cohort that thought JFK was going to show up to some event or something a few months ago.

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                  A few months ago? Jesus Christ, I remember that dumb shit from the numerology crew and I had kinda lost track of them for a couple of years. This country would be so much better if they would throw their ballots in the trash. Here’s hoping.

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      It emboldens them because he already painted himself the victim, the outsider. He literally called it a witch hunt.

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      In NY, even if he’s sentenced to prison, it’s up to the judge’s discretion whether he has to report to prison while awaiting appeal…and we all know he’s going to appeal.