• watson@lemmy.world
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    3 days ago

    Is that what you really want? More people acting like Donald Trump?

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        3 days ago

        Yeah, sure, fascism bad, however, I’m not sure that, in this case, a bit of judicial assholery is tantamount to fascism. This decision can be appealed and possibly reversed by a higher court.

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          3 days ago

          Looks like the judge is reversing it based on nothing but carbrain, calling the bike lane “arbitrary” and “capricious”. Looks like this whole court is out of order.

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            The key words I pick out are “in violation of lawful procedure”. I don’t like this choice either, but it looks like the city took a shortcut

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              Ah I didn’t see that part, thank you.

              Yeah the judge doesn’t sound so wrong any more.

              I guess it depends on if DOT actually violated the law or the judge is ruling on a stretch. I wish had more details.

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                2 days ago

                No kidding. All too often even clear looking articles seem to have important details missing

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            I’m pretty sure there’s gonna be an appeal. The judge gave 30 days before the order must be executed. He also denied all of the other claims.

            This is not a ruling that should be difficult to get reversed on appeal

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          Public funding was used as directed by public officials to build public infrastructure. A judge orders it torn up with no legal basis, attempting to circumvent not only the will of the people, but the law.

          It’s certainly not democratic

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            2 days ago

            Just because its not democratic does not make it fascist. When you throw words around hap hazardusly they lose meaning.

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      3 days ago

      Trump ignores the wants of the many to benefit the few. When the many stand up to the few, it’s not the same as what Trump does, it’s the opposite.

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      Morally you’re right of course. Everyone should follow laws and procedures. Even when others don’t. No disagreement.

      But there is a line from the first Foundation book. I’ll paraphrase: Don’t let your sense of morality stop you from doing the right thing.

      When you’re playing against a cheater. You’ll follow the rules every time, and loose every time. Which is fine in a game. Especially when you know someone is inforcing the rules and the cheater will be stopped. But when when actual lives are on the line? And the ref is the one cheating? Going against your moral code to do the right thing, becomes the moral thing to do.

      That’s what RobbinHood was all about.

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        Laws are not moral. It is absolutely not morally correct to blindly follow laws and adhere to bureaucracy.

        It is “unlawful” for the hungry to take bread from a store while that same store throws away tons of perfectly good bread annually because they didn’t sell it by some arbitrarily set date. How is that morally correct to allow bread to be thrown away instead of simply letting the hungry have food?

        There is NOTHING moral about laws.

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          Laws are a governments attempt to codify it’s peoples aggregate morality into something enforceable. Something more than just an individuals own judgement.

          Without laws society would be governed by the whims of the most powerful individuals. The existence of laws themselves, are a moral stance against Might Makes Right. So following the law is a moral rule, of it’s own.

          Stealing (taking something that doesn’t belong to you) is immoral. So is failing to give something you don’t need, to someone who will die without it. The times when moral rules come into conflict, are exactly the moments I’m talking about when I say “Don’t let your morality get in the way of doing what’s right.” You can’t follow two contradictory rules. So you have to choose what action, in that individual moment, will lead to the best outcome.

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            As an anarchist I firmly disagree with this entire premise.

            We literally live in a society governed by the whims most powerful people as dictated by the hierarchy that “rule of law” and the capitalist system creates. Rule of law got its beginning in the whims of kings deciding that everyone “beneath” them on the social hierarchy should follow their rule or be subject to punishment. The rule of law is literally “might makes right”, you either listen to the authority of those at the top of the hierarchy or they will send the state dogs (the police) to force you into obedience.

            Stealing food from a corporate entity is 100% a morally correct action. Stealing itself is an action that cannot be morally judged without understanding the socioeconomic circumstances behind why someone would feel they need to steal in the first place.

            Following the law has nothing to do with morality.

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      I want everyone to stop tripping over themselves to comply with dumb “orders” like this. If that means taking a page out of Trump’s playbook and ignoring them, then yeah, fuck it.