• untorquer@lemmy.world
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    10 hours ago

    I’ve been in the leftmost spaces most of my adult life. Accommodations for nuance have generally cost me a few calories in processing thought and not misgendering people but tha’ts it. It was annoying at times to learn new things but the impact on my ability to experience and navigate the world was nil. The benefits were that i got to have deeper connections with my friends of various genders and ethnicities.

    I think if someone’s coming from an unchallenged experience of masculinity that when people ask for accommodation they feel it as a personal attack because they never had to expend a single calorie of energy on it before, and now someone is asking them to.

    It also just takes a looooong time (decades even) to get over one’s own insecurities because it’s easy to hide those behind a mask of masculinity. That part takes a lot more effort whereas the manosphere tells you that you don’t have to climb that mountain because actualization is achieved hiding behind that mask.

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      I think if someone’s coming from an unchallenged experience of masculinity that when people ask for accommodation they feel it as a personal attack because they never had to expend a single calorie of energy on it before, and now someone is asking them to.

      This is it.

      Equality feels like oppression when you’re privileged.

    • TubularTittyFrog@lemmy.world
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      4 hours ago

      Me too. leftist spaces used to be about freedom for everyone. Now they are about screaming at everyone who doesn’t agree with whatever the most ‘progressive’ point of view is that they are horrible and awful people.

      Like, it’s fine if you wanna be a transgender poly person, but it’s not fine if you want to shit on everyone else who isn’t and act like they are ignorant nazis and spend your days shitting on anyone who isn’t in total agreement with your lifestyle.

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        3 hours ago

        Yeah it’s definitely not a monolith. There were always those cis-hating types of spaces around and that’s just counterproductive. Luckily my experience is in the “let’s figure it or together” types of spaces which are far and away the majority. But everyone remembers the most irritating voice which is often also the loudest.

        I think there’s also a phase a lot of people go through in their journey where they feel a need to over-express their new identity. That can lead to social growing pains.

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      10 hours ago

      Yeah, keep antagonizing everyone that doesn’t have the exact same opinions you do. It’s gonna end great.

      Also, that’s a lot of assumptions you made there.