• DaddleDew@lemmy.world
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    3 months ago

    It does sound like it could become a solid option for people wanting to ditch Windows and want a simple, easy to use distro that just works out of the box with GUIs for everything they’ll ever want to do so they never have to touch the oh ever so intimidating terminal.

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    3 months ago

    Well, only the base OS in /usr is immutable; /etc is writable for making system-level config changes, and your entire home folder is of course yours to do what you want with, including installing software into it. So that’s what you do: use Discover to get software, mostly from Flathub at this point in time, but Snap is also technically supported and you can use snap in a terminal window (support in Discover may arrive later).

    That’s fine for apps in Flathub and the Snap Store, but what about software not available there? What about CLI tools and development libraries?

    Containers offer a modern approach: essentially you download a tiny tiny Linux-based OS into a container, and then you can install whatever that OS’s own package management system provides into the container. KDE Linux ships with support for Distrobox and Toolbx.

    It sounds like more work for the user than a single system-wide package manager. And in my experience there are some applications that are not designed for sandboxed installations, where you have to fiddle around with the sandbox settings to get things to work. I’ve become frustrated by this in the past and ended up going back to system-level, unsandboxed packages. Likewise, managing containers for CLI applications can be great or it can be a pain for similar reasons. Some things are just easiest when fully integrated with the OS, though it brings security and stability risks. So I haven’t been won over by immutable distros yet but I’ll be interested to see whether KDE Linux can soften some of these hard edges for the user. It sounds like they do want it to be viable for non-experts coming from Windows.

  • yyprum@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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    3 months ago

    This project sounds pretty cool, I’ve always liked KDE, run Neon for many years. I’ll surely keep an eye open when this comes out of alpha.

  • Lumisal@lemmy.world
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    3 months ago

    I really hope they make it so you can very easily customize and then make an installable copy of your system, like MX Linux does.

    Currently making one for my mom and dad in MX since they’re basically the only ones who have something like that these days, and their Linux installs are too old for them to update anymore.

    Shipping them a USB with an installer that’s easy to use with the software they’ll use already installed, and Librewolf already configured, would make this awesome.

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    2 months ago

    As a relatively new Linux user, I picked KDE Neon for my work PC as I figured it made sense to have direct access to up-to-date KDE software. So I’m kind of disconcerted at reading that Neon is considered by KDE to be at the end of its road.

    Given that I just did a regular installation, without putting Home on a separate partition or anything like that, what’s the most efficient way of backing everything up and moving across to a distro that’s more actively maintained?

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      2 months ago

      what’s the most efficient way of backing everything up and moving across to a distro that’s more actively maintained?

      Honestly, don’t migrate everything. Things can break when moving configuration files between distributions and you’d end up having more work than backing up the necessities (user files) and doing the rest from scratch. User IDs in the file metadata are the first thing to mismatch and things could spiral down from there (looking for files in one place but the new distribution places it somewhere else, for example).

      Get an external hard disk, format it as ExFAT and copy documents, videos, downloads,… from your home directory onto it. ExFAT does not support Linux file permissions, so from your new distribution you can copy the files without any “permission denied” errors.

      Sadly Ubuntu and its derivatives such as Neon are still often recommended to newcomers for historical reasons even though there are more stable and easier distributions around. Ubuntu fucking up Flatpak compatibility in its latest release is just another chapter in an endless saga. Fedora KDE should offer a good balance between long term availability, recent KDE software and stability. Personally, I’m more of an openSUSE guy myself but some quirks may be a bit much for newcomers.

      • Ketata Mohamed 🐧💻🎮@mastodon.tn
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        2 months ago

        @djdarren @woelkchen I migrated my #Linux many times between distros and I also do the same thing: I never have a seperate /home partition so I backup everything on /home on a seperate drive + other things & after I standard install the new distro, I live boot from USB & replace the new /home with the new /home content