• Obinice@lemmy.world
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    4 hours ago

    They were allowing kids to use phones in classrooms up to that point…?

    When I went to school, if you were seen with your phone out during class it was confiscated until the end of the day. And back then all you could use them for was texting anyway haha.

    Anything that might distract from the lesson would be treated the same way, that’s just basic sense for any teacher.

    Why would teachers stop caring about phones in classrooms, especially given how famously addictive and problematic to attention etc we now know them to be?

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    4 hours ago

    As a teacher from a country that passed a similar law a few months ago: this is stupid, it won’t work unless you get parents involved. Also, it offloads the parenting responsibility to already overworked teachers. You know a law that could actually be more effective? Ban the use of social media for those below 18. Another one? Make the use of parental controls mandatory for people below 18. This kind of law may only work if it’s implemented together with other changes where it’s possible to spread the responsibility over the issue across many layers. If all you’re doing is relying on schools and teachers, all this law will do is to contribute even more to the high levels of burnout teachers have. Can we please force parents to actually have to parent their fucking kids??

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      Well that just seems like a bad study. If restricting phone use at school doesnt actually lower phone use at school then that just means the school didnt enforce the rules…

      Thats whate they are saying with that first sentence right? Restrictive rules are not associated with phone use. Thats only possible if the rules arent being applied.

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        Adolescents attending schools with restrictive, compared to permissive policies had lower phone (adjusted mean difference −0.67 h, 95% CI −0.92 to −0.43, p = 0.00024) and social media time (adjusted mean difference −0.54 h, 95% CI −0.74 to −0.36, p = 0.00018) during school time, but there was no evidence for differences when comparing usage time on weekdays or weekends.

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          There is no evidence that restrictive school policies are associated with overall phone and social media use

          That means they use the word “overall” to mean “out of school” in a study about school rules. Bravo.

          The correct wording would be:

          There is no evidence that restrictive school policies are associated with overall phone and social media use outside of school

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        6 hours ago

        The Lancet is one of the most respected journals of them all - and this is the largest and most scientifically valid study done on mobile phone use in schools.

        Try again?

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    Good, I’d probably have done way better in high school if my phone hadn’t been there (and if I’d gotten my ADHD dX and Adderall rX back then). No reason to have them on you if you’re a student. Parents and family can call the school if there’s an emergency.

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      8 hours ago

      If there is an emergency the school refuses to report (or worse; them creating a situation), that is not the case.

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      Educational experts, at least here in Germany, advise against a ban. A phone enables participation for a child among children who‘ll just work around the ban. The net effect will be negative.

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        8 hours ago

        Would this not be a ban on phones for kids and less on in class? I don’t think they would miss out on much during class time, but not having a phone at all would cause a social barrier in today’s world.

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          Uhm yes. A second argument was that the children need to learn media literacy with the medium they use the most. Of course this would need more competence and guiding on the side of the teachers.

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            If you’re adding another thing to teach, it would also require additional time. Teachers have full loads as-is.

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              There’s plenty of absolutely useless stuff done in schools just because that’s how we used to do it.