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    That’s surprising, but also give it a couple weeks.

    Edit: Turns out this includes Palestinian Israelis (Israeli Palestinians? This is hard), which explains things.

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        Because Israelis tend to believe the most heinous shit (look up Tel Aviv University Peace Index, shit’s fucked up), so I had expected a pretty comfortable majority to support annexing Gaza. But now that I checked the article, this poll includes Palestine Israelis, so with that in mind it’s within expectations; if you subtract like 15% from the supporting camp to account for Palestinians you’ll probably get a narrow supporting majority.

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          Tel Aviv University Peace Index

          Yes I’ve read several of their reports a whule bacj. Most Israelis (particularly Jewish ones but also many Arab Israelis) and Gazans are very pessimistic about the prospects for peace, tied to not believing the other side to be trustworthy, particularly since Oct. 7.

          believe the most heinous shit

          You’ll have to elaborate on that, because you’re (A) generalizing to a very large group with very diverse views & opinions and (B) rather vague.

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            You’ll have to elaborate on that, because you’re (A) generalizing to a very large group with very diverse views & opinions and (B) rather vague.

            Okay. I’ll be working off the latest report here, dated July 2025. A 60%+ majority of Jewish Israelis:

            • Oppose the establishment of a Palestinian state.
            • Support “Voluntary” Palestinian immigration from Gaza.
            • Believe that the number of Palestinian casualties in the so-called war is justified.

            In addition, slimmer majorities:

            • Oppose peace negotiations with the Palestinian Authority.
            • Support full Israeli security control in post-war Gaza.
            • Support the forced expulsion of Palestinians from Gaza by military means.
            • Support Israel Katz’s proposal to relocate all Gazans to a tent camp in Rafah and only allow them to leave for other countries.

            I believe I’ve made my case already, but also note that these all have 7-15% don’t know answers, which is fucked up in its own right but also means that if you only count the people with an opinion on the subject you get even worse numbers.

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    Looks like liberal Zionists are trying to sanitize the reputation of their genocidal colony.

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    But it’s palestinian the occupied who should disarm according to the west and major arab countries. The irony

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      Because in Israeli society, the given goal was getting rid of hamas, which is generally supported by pretty much everyone, unless you’re a moron. Annexing gaza was not in initial plans, so…this is just logic. Israel is going too far and not even Israelis themselves support what IDF is doing or wants to do, generally of course, as there are always extremists on all fronts

      Then again, I’m just brainstorming, trying to connect the dots

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        The west bank shows that destroying khamas is just some bs israeli use to justify occupation.

        after the formation of a large army in the wake of the establishment of the state, we will abolish partition and expand to the whole of Palestine - Ben Gurrion

        The plan was always taking control of all Palestine surely but slowly, that’s why honest Zionists talk about Judea and samaria which was destroyed centuries ago