Richard Stallman had a dream where you control your computing. And XMPP is the closest social network in line with Richard Stallman’s vision of the internet. This instant message protocol, allows for you to easily host your own server, it’s fast and efficient, and has lots of different open source clients to choose from. Additionally, by making it extensible, it allows for anyone to build upon it to get their own desired features. This article goes over some of the basics of XMPP: https://simplifiedprivacy.com/xmpp-decentralized-signal-get-your-own-social-network/

Note: There are no affiliate links or sales text in this educational article discussing open source. Let’s discuss the technology and not attack the author.

  • The Cuuuuube@beehaw.org
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    I wish we could stop deifying Richard Stallman. He had a good idea once, but the open source movement has outgrown him and his transphobic misogynistic beliefs

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        I think the problem there is that, for many years, nobody bothered to explain to him exactly why child porn is bad.

        Most people observe that everyone else thinks it’s bad and don’t question it any further. That’s not good enough for Stallman, though, and for good reason: expecting him to unquestioningly bow to peer pressure is an insult to his intelligence.

        Someone did eventually explain the problem to Stallman. I don’t know what exactly was explained, but my guess is that Stallman was told that child porn is non-consensual and therefore violates the child’s privacy, similar to how revenge porn violates the subject’s privacy. At any rate, after that discussion took place, Stallman did an about-face on the subject, and is now opposed to child porn like anyone else.

        Moral of the story: taboos and peer pressure bad; logic and education good.

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          Is he a robot? This iseems like a very strange thing to have to explain to a grown-ass man.

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            Probably just autistic, I mean as far as I know he hasn’t been diagnosed but he’s checking a lot of the boxes. And the way he views the world and basing conclusions on those views make sense to me in that context.

            He’s just more rigid and extreme in approaching the world from that frame of mind than most people are. Thus sometimes leading to “bad” takes where his intentions are probably not terrible in the way people think they are.

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            How was he supposed to know, if no one ever told him? They didn’t teach about child porn when I was in school, and Stallman is older than me.

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                We are discussing the porn itself, not what happened in the process of making it. If it were illegal to possess a video because it depicts a crime, then it would also be illegal to possess a video of police murdering innocent people, and we definitely don’t want to go there.

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                  for observers: please don’t essentially argue possession of child sex abuse material should be legal because otherwise the standard is set for making videos of police committing crimes illegal

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      his transphobic misogynistic beliefs

      Mind shedding some light for an internet stranger?

    • wxboss@lemmy.sdf.org
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      The open source community (or movement) is about, well…open source that many of us here benefit from and greatly appreciate. While everyone is free to agree or disagree with the personal ideals of any developer who has made their positions known, it’s not fair to discount the importance of someone’s historical contributions just because their current opinions seem incongruent to our own.

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          We kinda do need him, though. Very few people are as intensely principled as he is on the subject of computing freedom, and without him anchoring the Overton window, there’s nothing stopping the Bill Gateses of this world from moving it.

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    Well he’s on Mastodon so I guess that’s your answer.

    Why would we attack the author? That seems like an oddly specific request that makes me oddly suspicious of the author, if anything.

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      Because there’s sales text in the “educational” article.

      You should use an XMPP server that respects your privacy. If you truly want privacy and don’t want to trust any server, we recommend setting up your own server. If this beyond your technical interests then we can setup a server for you and hand over the passwords. If we setup a server for you, then you’d pick the domain name and get complete control over who can use it.

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        Yes, I was kind of being rhetorical there, I thought that would be enough to draw attention to what’s going on. Also a new Lemmy account that exclusively links to one unknown website is a big red flag.

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      Wouldn’t IPv6 solve this? Give each device a static address and you have the state of the internet before NAT became necessary

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      VeilID might be something you find interesting. It’s designed to solve exactly this problem by enabling most nodes to NATsmash with help for p2p stuff, and also provides a general and very strong privacy framework including torlike routing .

      It was only unveiled at defcon this year though so the team behind it (Cult Of The Dead Cow) are trying to put docs in place ;p

      Its completely written in rust, easily embeddable, has good content locality and is probably the cleanest, most performant, and most easily integrated into projects architecture for stuff like this that I’ve seen, as a programmer who’s into this space and familiar with things like i2p, tor, etc. I really hope this one takes off, and the quality of it means I really think it could (at least once they throw the docs together ;p)

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    There’s no mention though in the linked article that Richard actually thinks this? Both XMPP and Nostr are extensible. Nostr saw accounts linked to a server as weakness, and therefore went with many relays (any of which can be used).

    But as also mentioned, Richard is actually very active on Mastodon today. ActivityPub is not the best protocol around, but it is now a W3C standard and seems to have more popular uptake than both XMPP and Nostr (Nostr having the excuse that it is very new still).

    BTW I’m active daily on XMPP, Nostr, Mastodon, IRC, and many more, so have no particular stake in any one.

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    XMPP has a few issues, like not being that great for tunneling through HTTP and also having a concept of presence built in at its core that’s no longer relevant in today’s always-online world.

    It also needs a lot of extensions to be usable, like session resumption.

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    The educational article promotes their own XMPP service, which isn’t inherently bad but at odds with your note about no sales text